Thoughts on the Message of Bill Johnson and Bethel Church

Q: I am curious about the Bethel Church with Bill Johnson. My church is getting into their music, teaching, and conferences. What advice can you give me?

A: This is a very, very, toxic ministry. I wrote about this in principle in a book called Counterfeit Revival: Looking for God in All the Wrong Places. In that book, what I do is contrast genuine revival from the kinds of things that you are going to find at Bethel Church in Redding, California, with Bill Johnson as the senior pastor.

There are others like Todd White — now the newest rage in these Christian circles. He has tens of thousands of followers. Why? Because he is promising that as he walks through crowds, as he walks through malls, as he goes about his daily life, people are getting healed left and right from all kinds of maladies. And so, there is a great, great propaganda machine that backs him up: Charisma magazine. You have big churches that start talking about it. Pretty soon, very much like what happened with the Counterfeit Revival in Pensacola, Florida, people start flocking to the scene.

The hell of it, if you will, those people who are most desperate — and when you are sick, I can tell you from personal experience, if you are not enveloped in a cloak of peace, you can get very desperate — you want to be healed. This world has its good points (we know the next world’s a lot better), but all of us feel like we have a mission to complete in this world, and so you want to be healed. I still remember with great pain in my heart when I was writing the book Counterfeit Revival, hearing the story of a man whose baby had just died. He was so desperate for a resurrection, and he was listening to a Counterfeit Revivalist in Pensacola, Florida. He drove all the way across the country with a dead baby in an ice chest, a baby on ice, drives across the country, you can imagine the agonizing experience, only to find when he gets there, it is all a hoax. This is precisely what Bill Johnson is unfortunately perpetrating.

They have their healing rooms. They have their schools of supernatural ministry. They emphasize the need of believers to return to a ministry of signs and wonders. They consider miracles, signs, and wonders to be a norm. Now, do I believe in healing? I absolutely do. I absolutely do. But, through proper means. Not through a con artist’s sleight-of-hand / sleight-of-mind kind of shenanigans.

If you look at the theology of Bethel Church, what you in essence find is the theology of a very capricious God. Not only that, but you find loads and loads of examples of the supernatural that really are not examples at all. In other words, this is being hyped. Johnson tells of God having a storehouse of body parts. He says,

Years ago, one of our students had an encounter with the Lord. It was really quite bizarre. In heaven she actually saw this room with spare body parts. You say, “Well that doesn’t exist in heaven.” I don’t know. I haven’t seen it. But she did. And she was with Chris ministering down in Santa Rosa, I think it was. And a gal came up that was in a head-on collision, had really messed up her legs. Used to be a dancer and had very little function….and she says, “I don’t even have a kneecap.” Well, the gal who’d seen the spare parts room in heaven says, “Well, I’ll get one for you.” That’s like, that’s got to be like the ultimate response ever! “Well, I’ll get one for you.” She reaches her arm like this, she brings it down, lays hands on the knees and within fifteen minutes, she has a new knee cap.

Here we have a warehouse in heaven and the spare parts are coming down. This is a common occurrence. In his theology, you are not to pray, “Thy will be done.” This is a nonstarter in this community.

If you look at the Bible, Jesus prays, “Nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done” (Luke 22:44 KJV). The apostle Paul teaches us to pray in this manner. Peter teaches us to pray in this manner. Who can forget the apostle James? The words ought to be familiar to all of us. Chapter 4 of his epistles says, “Now listen, you who say, ‘Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.’” Then James says, “Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.” Here are the operative words: “Instead, you ought to say, ‘If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that’ As it is, you boast and brag. All such boasting is evil” (James 4:13–16 NIV). The reason that I bring that up specifically is because in an article that we did in the Christian Research Journal (I do believe it is up on the Web right now), there is an article entitled “Off the Map: Johnson and the Pursuit of Extrabiblical Authentication,” an article written by Bob Hunter. This article really goes into the excesses that you will find in this ministry. In fact, it has a section on what Bill Johnson and company believe when it comes to Christ praying, “If it be thy will.”

I can tell you, having now gone through a bone marrow biopsy, and waiting for the results, the greatest thing in my prayer is to be in the center of God’s will. That is what I really care about. I’ve had a cough that has plagued me for many, many months. It has been undiagnosed, and I have been praying about this, and praying about this, and praying about this, but, always in the context of “if it be your will Lord,” because I have found — I have been on this a long time — I have found that God teaches you so much in your suffering and sorrows. C. S. Lewis said it is His megaphone to a deaf world.

—Hank Hanegraaff

This blog is adapted from the May 2, 2017, Bible Answer Man broadcast.

16 Responses to Thoughts on the Message of Bill Johnson and Bethel Church

  1. paula downing says:

    It is so important to read Counterfeit Revival so that people KNOW what to look out for!

    • Jane Dickinson says:

      I have been so totally blessed with my husband at the ministry of this church and its leaders. It is so refreshing to listen to their loving, heartfelt messages, I have been a Christian for 51 years, studied theology at a Bible College in New Zealand devoted to the Word and taught there also and have been so encouraged especially as my husband has had 6 heart operations since 2005 and Bethel’s teaching has helped us to continue to believe in a God who wants to heal, is always good and Holy but will see us through each and every trial with or without divine healing. How sad, and how often Christians feel the need to attack other parts of the body, it is one of the things I love about Bethel and their ministry, they will not do it. I pray that you will all listen to a wide array of messages, not just read a book of criticism to maybe get a more rounded idea of what is preached, God’s blessings on you all, Jane Dickinson

  2. Adele says:

    There’s such a perfect peace in praying ‘Thy will be done’. I have been through three heart surgeries and may need another, which may or may not fix my arrhythmia issues, but knowing He is accomplishing His will in my life is what makes these trials bearable. Even when I miss my music ministry and people lament to me that God HAS to heal me, I remind them that His will is far more important to me than healing. God bless you as you continue to point people to the One who will ultimately heal us all!

  3. Buddy Buddin says:

    Wonderful and exciting news, I do hope and pray that Hank recovers well through the chemo process, however if I’m ever in the same situation, needing chemo, I will decline indeed, I’ve seen too many suffer the barbaric aftermath, it just doesn’t sit well with me. This has nothing at all to do with Hank and his decision or especially his faithful works of study along with his show. I’m a proud listener and learner of the show. I love the new set up on f/b, I believe it will be greatly successful and very much needed.
    Thanks again for the many years of blessings…!!!

  4. Buddy Buddin says:

    As for Bill Johnson and his “show”… I agree with Hank, and it’s getting more dangerous as we get closer and closer to the end.
    It seems as though people, Christiin or not are flocking to the easy way, the watered down Word and are wiling to believe in man instead of God….
    Enough said, I like you are flawed by sin stained allusions that try so desperately to cover His Truth….

  5. Nancy Brinton says:

    Though I’m leaving this reply, I’m wondering if it will actually make it to this website, as it will absolutely contradict what has been written here. But in all good conscience, I must reply. First of all, I’m not hearing you address the innumerable healings, signs, wonders and miracles that ARE taking place through this ministry all over the world. Nor are you mentioning the many Scriptures that, in essence, declare that we walk in the same authority that Jesus did. Remember “we ARE seated with Him in the heavenlies” and “the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, lives in us”. Oh, and there’s that bit about how just a little faith can move mountains, and that we are ‘more than conquerors’. The least of which is Jesus declaring that those who follow Him WILL ‘heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the leper and cast out demons’. I exhort you to elevate your spirit above your mind, and allow yourselves to believe that we are supernatural beings, because Holy Spirit lives in us, and He can do anything He wants through us. Whoever said this is the ‘easy way’ hasn’t tried it. Walking in true faith and trust in God and His Word takes continual courage and determination. Seems to me it’s easy to sit back and say ‘whatever is is His will’ instead of realizing our responsibility to walk in the the authority He’s given us, to be the salt and light by actually ‘imitating Jesus’ as Paul exhorted us. I’m all for being the Body of Christ, and to me, that means ‘doing what He did’ as we continue His work. He’s the model. And Bill Johnson and Bethel Church come closer to demonstrating that model than all the anemic churches that pick and choose what parts of Jesus’ life they will imitate. I’m guessing, anything but what may appear ‘supernatural’!!!!

    • Life Interupted says:

      Question, what is your take on the teachings of Benni Johnson summoning Angels in the desert, or the children’s Ministry @ Bethel taking young children on “Guided trips to heaven ” or Bethel’s heavy endorsement of Shawn Bowls, who claims to have a vision of Jesus and an Angel giving him the “spiritual keys ” to unlock and restore secrets unknown to us until now. Or Brain Simmons who has written a new “Translation” of the bible to more “accurately portray the heart and message of God” after being “taken up to heaven and finding books of the bible unknown to us like John 22.
      It seems to me that we have a few modern day Joseph Smith’s with “new revalation aND insight” just like the Mormon/LDS church.

      I had very similar mindset as you not long ago, but the more I dug into the real word of God on my own and with a fair amount of knowledge of the mormon beliefs and other churches that have added to the true gospel, the more I saw dangerous error in the teachings at Bethel. I have attended classes put on by Kris Vallotton, and been through part of Bethel’s SOZO healing. The teachings are very “NEW AGE, CHRISTIAN MYSTIC. Yes we are called to imitate Christ, to give our lives to live for him, just as he sacraficed his life for us. Jesus laid down his life for us, fully submitted to the will of God. We live to serve him, Yes! we are called to pray for the sick, Yes I believe in a powerful and mighty God who is able to do all things. But the message often taught from Bethel is a Gospel of miracles and healing. Not the gospel of Repentance and forgiveness through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If the Christian Churches accept the non biblical teachings of Bethel because of their “good works/fruit ” then how are we any different than any other false religion?

      In the Charasmatic circles, It seems that, to question the teachings of Bill Johnson is near equal to questioning God himself. It is scary that he and people likeep Hiedi Baker are becoming “infallible ” to the Christian community, just like the pope is to catholics. As you listen to the teachings of Bethel, I would urge you (or anyone to compare what they are teaching to the bible. Some of their teachings are very sound, but some are in stark contrast with the bible. You can view any of the above topics on YouTube with a quick search.

    • John Ernst says:

      Thank you Nancy. I like listening to Bill Johnson although it’s been very little, so I cant speak about him specifically. But this whole notion that churches that demonstrate healing are heretical because in their church people die of cancer at the same ratio as the world makes me literally sick to my stomach. I’m not angry at them I don’t look down at them, it’s just sad. It’s sad that about 1/3 of the early ministry was kicking out demons and healing the sick and Jesus commanded us to go and do likewise but now if your church walks in that power of Jesus other churches will say you must be demonic, or heretical, or dangerous. I guess it’s dangerous if you don’t just sit in a pue and die. I don’t go to a church that believes in healing but I was nonetheless healed of cancer by Jesus with no chemo or radiation or treatment of any kind. Jesus gave me faith, his word, and a tongue to speak. I also surrounded myself with Gods healing preachers and those with testimonies of being healed and I ran as fast as I could from doctors words and conventional Christians, I literally could not spend 10 seconds with anyone who wanted to console me, made me physically ill to be in their presence. Nonetheless we are all the body of Christ, praise the Lord Jesus!

  6. Frank Sperling says:

    I completely agree with you Nancy, Bethel church and Bill Johnson are authentic, After all Jesus did say ” I am the way, the truth, and the life “. Are you walking in the “way” with Jesus ? if not you cannot come to the father, nor can you “know ” the truth, or experience ” the life”

  7. Glen grant says:

    I broke fellowship with a baptist congregation in priince George bc Canada over this issue they movers and shakers in our congregation we’re going down to Redding for johnsons supernatural schools of ministry I went to the pastor about it and he didn’t agree with them but was unwilling to to upset the apple art he is afraid it would split his church apart so I quietly left

    • Ed May says:

      I completely agree with Glen Grant, Life Interupted and Hank.
      A young family woman from our church here in England who had been fighting cancer for years went to Toronto for healing, at the last session she was thrown to the ground and had to leave crawling on her hands and knees, months later she died. She was a lovely woman and devout Christian, now thankfully at rest with the Lord.
      This blessing from Toronto? Came over to our town in England and I attended a few different sessions, one I cant speak about because the spiritual experience for me was to awful to comment on, a second was at my church where a prominent leader was endorsing this movement to 400 plus Christians. A man stood up to warn everyone to beware of this teaching; he was booed, and then thrown out. I left also. Unfortunately my wife was drawn into it and this caused a rift between us.
      Later in the year we attended New Wine, a protégé of Bill Johnson preached all week, then at the end Johnson showed up and preached a message condemning anyone who spoke out and against Todd Bentley. I left New Wine incredibly discouraged, strange really, as you’re meant to leave feeling uplifted and emboldened for Christ.
      The whole experience very nearly broke up our marriage, but we left that church and attended another where we found healing and our marriage has been restored. Thanks to the Lord our God, we now attend a small Church in our local community as leaders following Jesus Christ our Lord, not men like Johnson.

  8. E. Canencia says:

    I am grieved that you continue to propitiate division in His body. Hank (and you’re followers), is it really His will that you have cancer? Hank is it really His will that you have a continual cough that you have to pray and pray about? Deuteronomy 28 says not. If it’s His will that you be sick in order to be taught, why then did Jesus go about healing all were sick and oppressed of the devil? (Matthew 4:23, Acts 10:38) And why did He tell us we would do greater works than these because He was going to the Father? (John 14:12) What are the greater works? If only you would believe the Word, instead of thinking that God needs a sheriff patrolling His body. Satan is the accuser of the brethren. Why can’t you see that you are actually working against God by accusing the followers of Christ? The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Fear God!

  9. Dave says:

    Don’t anything about cancer but if you made a negative comment regarding this that’s sick feel very sad for your heart is in the wrong place.

    almost of theses reported healings are from a friend of a friend I seen nothing verifiable

    If you have more question regarding this here are some resources:
    following books:
    God’s Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement
    by R.Douglas Geivett (Author),‎ Holly Pivec (Author)

    A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement
    by R.Douglas Geivett (Author),‎ Holly Pivec (Author)

    also Youtube:

    Everything I see from them evolves around ego and elevating them self, not God. Who decides to call them selfs apostles only true apostles of God have seen/witness the resurrected Jesus , so now their time travelers as well, as I said ego and elevated oneself.

    • I thank the Lord who died for our sin and now we have the benefits of all from healing to living. It is so sad that Christians do not want to take up their weapons and fight their war. I have been suffering from evil attacks in my dreams. For all my life since my childhood all of my activities were in a mess. I moved from one church to the other, but by the Grace of the Father i survived. I decided to start reading the Bible, devote my self to the word of God more that any other activities. I ended up getting a lot of fruitful information from different spiritual books from different believers including how i ended up in this site of Bill Johnson.

      I am not against or in with Bill, but as Jesus said we have no right to Judge others we have one Master who will do it. And Jesus warned us to be very very vigilant because many will come in His name, they will perform miracles but not from me. And Jesus advised us to listen to their words but we should not follow their behavior. I could see now that as i started to grow my faith i am now an overcome in many many basic evils that have been tormenting my memory and their habits. i can now be with confident advice people on how to overcome toxic thoughts, how to apply the words of God in different areas of their need as long as they are quoting scriptures that fight that spirit. Unfortunately we are lazy, ignorant, victims of our world evils including our ancestors inequity, do not help others because we, we are fine, we do not appreciate the power (glory) of our Father and the Authority of the Believers that we have received through the Blood of Jesus.

      I am now praying that The Lord in Heaven will help us so that His Children who are doing His work but in Captivity of Satan will be released and they will continue to do their work in Jesus Name. Let us pray that we will pray for others if we are to fight and grow our faith. There is no sickness and demons in this world that we cannot overcome, but if we allow Lucifer to continue and deceive and capture our True Believer we won’t fight his Kingdom anymore.

      Where Bill Johnson is not inline with God’s word let us pray and inform Him to come and do all that are in line with scripture. No one is perfect but what are we doing as Human being to help others?

      Whatever we ask in our Father’s name will be granted in the Name of Jesus Christ.

      The word of God is Spirit and the Spirit is Life. The Word is not going to die because of false teaching, as it is already paid for By the Blood of the Son of the Men; Amen.

  10. Laureen Glasscock says:

    I have been healed so many times, I have to take time and reflect on my whole body to remember all that God has healed. Most of the healings I received took place at the moment I prayed. God has rescued me from disaster at other times, at the perfect time and location to get help. I drove my dad to Bethel to receive prayer for healing, from Seattle to Redding. My dad did not get healed but he got a word from the Lord from one of the people at the Healing Room. He got more than a word. The woman spoke to him for several minutes. He was so astonished that she told him so much about himself, even things only he and God knew, that he was able to believe God was real, more real than he ever understood before. We need to be mindful that God is not limited to what we have been taught. He can do anything. He isn’t limited by our limitations to trust, to believe, and to understand. I trust Bill Johnson. I hear from God. Often I’ve heard from God about something, and that same week, I’ll hear a teaching from Bill that is something God just revealed to him and it confirms what God told me. If we dare to think that God will speak to us, we are a lot more likely to hear from Him.

  11. Lisa Scott says:

    Didn’t Jesus say that He only did what He saw the Father doing? When did He EVER turn someone away who was in need of healing? Where is it recorded in scripture that He asked the Father if it was His will to heal? Didn’t He tell the one man asking for healing that not only was He capable of giving him what he needed—but that He was willing to do so? How many places in the Gospels does it say that Jesus, as He traveled from town to town, healed ALL and delivered ALL who were oppressed of the devil? Signs and wonders are NOT to prove that He is God. It is NOT demanding a sign like the Pharisees asked for, which is the typical excuse for offense of those bothered by the teachings of Bill Johnson and his contemporaries. Every time God heals someone, it is because He LOVES them! He does not change, and He CANNOT be manipulated. Healing is a demonstration of His VAST love! And what is the fruit of such a personal encounter with the God of the universe? The person needing healing now realizes that God knows their name, that He knows where they are, that He knows their situation, that He cares about their life, and that He loves them extravagantly! Frequently, people get saved, and those who are already believers are drawn deeper! And God gets ALL the glory!

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